The TradeMarke
Step into ’The TradeMarke,’ your go-to podcast for everything marketing in the trades. Hosted by Award Winning Industry Marketing Experts, Sarah Ghirardo from ReMarketable and Eric Thomas from Rival Digital. Together, we’re here to unite the worlds of trades and marketing, bringing you insights, stories, and strategies from the heart of the home service industry. Whether you’re a trade professional, a marketing expert, or somewhere in between, this is the place for you. Listen in as we’re here for the BIG ideas, the game-changers, and the everyday successes. Because at ’The TradeMarke,’ we’re with the trades and for the trades.
Step into ’The TradeMarke,’ your go-to podcast for everything marketing in the trades. Hosted by Award Winning Industry Marketing Experts, Sarah Ghirardo from ReMarketable and Eric Thomas from Rival Digital. Together, we’re here to unite the worlds of trades and marketing, bringing you insights, stories, and strategies from the heart of the home service industry. Whether you’re a trade professional, a marketing expert, or somewhere in between, this is the place for you. Listen in as we’re here for the BIG ideas, the game-changers, and the everyday successes. Because at ’The TradeMarke,’ we’re with the trades and for the trades.
Episodes

Tuesday Jul 05, 2022
Differentiating Yourself Through Brand Storytelling | Ryan Chute - Wizard of Ads
Tuesday Jul 05, 2022
Tuesday Jul 05, 2022
Welcome to season 3 of the Smart HVAC Marketing podcast! We are kicking off the new season in style with Ryan Chute from the Wizard of Ads!
In this episode, we chat about how to properly create a marketing strategy, which tactics to deploy in order to achieve success in your marketing, and how online & offline advertising can work together.
Also, Ryan shares his top tips on how to create an effective radio jingle (so you don't waste your money), and different ways you can track your offline advertising efforts.

Wednesday Jun 29, 2022
You Have to Set the Hook
Wednesday Jun 29, 2022
Wednesday Jun 29, 2022
On this episode, Eric thanks all of our season 2 podcast guests, gives a great analogy for business, and teases season 3 which starts next Wednesday, July 6th!
(You won't want to miss it!)

Tuesday Jun 21, 2022
The Importance of Call by Call Management
Tuesday Jun 21, 2022
Tuesday Jun 21, 2022
On this episode we are joined by Kirsten Weeks from Go Time Success Group. Kirsten grew up in the industry and swore she would never return, but alas she is back! We think her story is super cool--Kirsten is also a certified Service Titan Coach. She discusses with Eric call by call management and how Service Titan can provide the tools necessary to manage and improve your business.

Wednesday Jun 15, 2022
Ways to Avoid Wasting Ad Spend This Summer
Wednesday Jun 15, 2022
Wednesday Jun 15, 2022
Welcome back for another segment of Marketing Real Talk. This week's episode talks about how to make your money stretch and go further on ad spend.
Eric talks about the importance of tracking numbers, (PPC, LSA, FB ads) and how you cannot improve things that are not being measured.
Eric talks about the importance of having Google Analytics set up on your website. Some tips he gives about improving numbers and allowing your ad spend to reach further are:
1. Making sure your CSR's are properly trained to convert calls into jobs.
2. Tracking numbers for your phones.
3. Adding Google Analytics and pixels on your website.
Other tips Eric shares:
Start broad, obsess over the first 30 clicks and then narrow, incorporating negative keywords.

Tuesday Jun 07, 2022
Continuing to Train Your Technicians in the Summer
Tuesday Jun 07, 2022
Tuesday Jun 07, 2022
On this episode we are joined by TJ Hartnett of Service Rocket
TJ has been in the trade since '94. (sorry to date you!) He believes that he was put on this planet to serve others. TJ and Eric discuss the importance of having a commitment to training. TJ touches upon some steps to implement training. Some of them include:
1. Manufacturer and distributer relationships--both have training resources.
2. Internal training at company level.
3. Technical skills
TJ also puts emphasis on the importance of the best way to learn something and to gain a new skill is to teach it to others.

Wednesday Jun 01, 2022
Maximizing Your In-House & Outsourced Marketing Efforts
Wednesday Jun 01, 2022
Wednesday Jun 01, 2022
On this episode, we are again joined by Matt Tyner from MAX Service Group. Eric and Matt touch upon the importance of progress, not perfection and how to best serve the industry. Matt also discusses how to manage marketing whether it be in house or a hired agency.
We are so happy to bring him back on the show! He was one of our first guests.

Wednesday May 25, 2022
Simple Ways to Improve Technician Recruitment
Wednesday May 25, 2022
Wednesday May 25, 2022
On this installment of Marketing Real Talk, Eric breaks down recruitment. Eric says that recruitment is essentially people marketing. He discusses what you should have on your website to spark interest in future employees.
Some of his tips include an about page, sharing your team on both social media and your site and to always be recruiting no matter what season it is.

Wednesday May 11, 2022
Questions To Ask When Hiring a Marketing Agency
Wednesday May 11, 2022
Wednesday May 11, 2022
On this episode, we bring you another edition of Marketing Real Talk. Eric discusses the right and wrong questions to ask when you're hiring a marketing agency.
Some of the questions include:
1. Where is the website being hosted?
2. What CMS is this being built on?
3. Will I own the content/website?
4. Who is writing copy?
5. How are edits going to he handled and what is your management fee?
Here at Rival Digital, we want to make sure you're prepared!

Tuesday May 03, 2022
Growing Your HVAC Business Through Acquisitions
Tuesday May 03, 2022
Tuesday May 03, 2022
Live Oak bank was founded in 2008 in Wilmington, NC. They focused on supplying loans to Veterinary practices when they first got their start.
Jordan touches upon how acquisitions and working capital can help grow your business. The founder of Live Oak wanted to provide financing to the HVAC and plumbing space because he understood the need for HVAC and plumbing businesses and their vital role they play in keeping communities comfortable.
What makes Live Oak different is the fact that they give loans based on cash flow of the business and not the collateral.
Live Oak is dedicated to the doers. They say "small business is the backbone of our country. It drives jobs, creates prosperity and boosts local economies. We’re proud to contribute to that growth by investing in America’s small business owners. When you bank with Live Oak, you can be proud too."

Tuesday Apr 26, 2022
How to Build a Thriving HVAC Business in 2022
Tuesday Apr 26, 2022
Tuesday Apr 26, 2022
On this episode we are joined by Tom Peregrino of Service Nation.
In this episode Eric and Tom touch upon the importance of being a better leader and how leadership directly influences the organization. Tom puts emphasis on leadership by saying, "The better the leader, the better the organization. In order to build a thriving HVAC business, you must work from the ground up. A business can only be as good as the leader allows it to be. Tom and Eric also discuss the importance and influence that culture has on whether or not your contractors stay for decades or leave after a few months.
About Service Nation:
Service Nation Inc was founded in July 2002 as The Service Roundtable. We started with 200 members which, for year one, we considered quite the achievement. It was and remains a revolutionary organization founded by a collaboration of leading contractors to share information and help other contractors improve their sales, marketing, operations and profitability.





