The TradeMarke
Step into ’The TradeMarke,’ your go-to podcast for everything marketing in the trades. Hosted by Award Winning Industry Marketing Experts, Sarah Ghirardo from ReMarketable and Eric Thomas from Rival Digital. Together, we’re here to unite the worlds of trades and marketing, bringing you insights, stories, and strategies from the heart of the home service industry. Whether you’re a trade professional, a marketing expert, or somewhere in between, this is the place for you. Listen in as we’re here for the BIG ideas, the game-changers, and the everyday successes. Because at ’The TradeMarke,’ we’re with the trades and for the trades.
Episodes

Friday Mar 14, 2025
Leadership, Growth & People Development in the Trades with Stephanie Allen
Friday Mar 14, 2025
Friday Mar 14, 2025
In this episode of The TradeMarke Podcast, Eric and Sarah sit down with Stephanie Allen from Airworks Solutions to discuss leadership, people development, and the evolution of running a trade business. Stephanie shares her journey of balancing business growth with personal life, embracing a visionary role, and the importance of building a strong company culture—both in-office and remotely.
From hiring strategies to team development, investing in people, and her unique approach to running an HVAC and plumbing business, Stephanie provides invaluable insights for trade professionals and business owners alike.
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Friday Mar 14, 2025
Mastering Social Media & Personal Branding in the Trades with Jen McKee
Friday Mar 14, 2025
Friday Mar 14, 2025
In this episode of The TradeMarke Podcast, hosts Eric Thomas and Sarah Ghirardo sit down with social media expert Jen McKee, founder of Kee Hart Marketing. They dive deep into the power of social media, personal branding for contractors, and why business owners in the trades should start leveraging short-form video and organic content marketing today. Jen shares invaluable insights on creating authentic content, engaging with communities, and positioning yourself as an industry leader.

Friday Feb 28, 2025
Friday Feb 28, 2025
What’s next for home service marketing in 2025? In this episode of The TradeMarke Podcast, hosts Eric Thomas and Sarah Ghirardo sit down with Megan Bedford and Nancy O’Hare-Zika from Home Service Marketing Hub to break down the biggest marketing shifts for roofers and home service contractors.
Live from Marco Island at the Roofing Process Conference, the conversation covers roofing industry trends, local marketing strategies, and how contractors can better utilize video, SEO, and CRM tools to dominate their markets. Megan and Nancy share real-world insights into why education-based marketing is winning, how video is essential for building customer trust, and why roofers need to move beyond traditional advertising to scale their businesses.
💡 Key Takeaways:
Why educating customers through marketing will be the key to success in 2025
The impact of AI, automation, and CRM tools on home service marketing
How to leverage video marketing for brand authenticity and customer engagement
Why local, hyper-targeted marketing campaigns drive better leads and conversions
The importance of call center training and booking the call when the phone rings
How roofing companies can build long-term customer relationships beyond a one-time service
If you’re a roofing contractor, HVAC/plumbing business owner, or home service marketer, this episode is packed with actionable strategies to help you future-proof your business. 🚀

Friday Feb 28, 2025
Friday Feb 28, 2025
How can branding make your business the go-to name in your market? In this episode of The TradeMarke Podcast, Eric Thomas and Sarah Ghirardo sit down with Dan Antonelli, CEO of KickCharge Creative, to dive deep into the power of branding in the trades.
Live from the 6th Annual Roofing Process Conference, Dan shares how a strong brand can lower marketing costs, increase customer trust, and boost conversions. Plus, they break down Gary Vaynerchuk’s take on branding vs. marketing, the impact of a polished brand on recruitment, and why your logo and website might be costing you leads.
💡 Key Takeaways:
Why branding is the key to reducing your reliance on PPC
The real ROI of a well-designed logo, van wrap, and website
How contractors can use brand recognition to dominate local search
The difference between branding and marketing (and why both matter)
Why mascots and unique domain names drive higher recall & conversions
If you're a contractor, home service business owner, or marketer looking to scale, this episode is a must-listen! 🎧

Friday Feb 21, 2025
The Blueprint for a Scalable, Profitable Restoration Business
Friday Feb 21, 2025
Friday Feb 21, 2025
How do you scale a home service business to 75+ franchise locations in under two years? In this episode of The TradeMarke, hosts Eric Thomas and Sarah Ghirardo sit down with Dan Claps, CEO of Voda Cleaning & Restoration, live from the 6th Annual Roofing Process Conference in Marco Island, Florida (hosted by LB Capital).
Dan shares his journey from the franchise lead generation space to acquiring and scaling a successful restoration brand. We dive into:
The power of franchising in home services and why executive-level entrepreneurs are thriving in blue-collar industries.
Marketing strategies for franchise growth, including the role of networking and partnerships.
How AI is disrupting home service marketing and SEO—and what business owners need to know to stay ahead.
The importance of building a repeatable, scalable business model in the trades.
How restoration businesses leverage insurance to drive profitability and create a sustainable revenue model.
We also discuss how AI, automation, and data-driven marketing are reshaping the trades, plus actionable insights on how to scale, systematize, and optimize a home service business.
🚀 If you're a contractor, franchisee, or entrepreneur looking to scale your business, this episode is packed with must-know insights.
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Friday Feb 07, 2025
Friday Feb 07, 2025
In this episode of The TradeMarke Podcast, Eric Thomas sits down with Josh Taylor, co-owner of Roofing Pups, live from the Roofing Process Conference. From starting as an ER nurse to building multiple home service businesses, Josh shares his journey of scaling companies, adopting EOS, and partnering with LB Capital to grow Roofing Pups into a national brand.
🏗️ Key Takeaways from This Episode:
✔️ The shift from insurance-based roofing to a retail-driven model✔️ How to scale a service business using systems, processes, and strong leadership✔️ The importance of vision, sacrifice, and resilience in business success✔️ Insights on mergers, acquisitions, and private equity in the trades✔️ Why legacy and family matter more than money when it comes to long-term success
💡 Whether you're a roofing contractor, a home service entrepreneur, or looking to scale your business, this episode is packed with practical insights and growth strategies you won’t want to miss!
🎧 Tune in now, and don’t forget to subscribe for more expert insights into marketing, business growth, and leadership in the trades!

Friday Jan 31, 2025
How To Double Your Booking Rate in 2025 (with Tiffany Arends)
Friday Jan 31, 2025
Friday Jan 31, 2025
In this episode of The TradeMarke Podcast, Eric Thomas and Sarah Ghirardo sit down with Tiffany Arends from All-American Heating and Plumbing in Breckenridge, Colorado, to talk about the essential relationship between marketing and operations in the trades industry.
Tiffany shares how her team doubled their booking rate, the importance of hiring the right CSRs, and how a strong company culture impacts every part of the business—from the first customer call to the final service visit.
If you've ever wondered how to optimize lead conversion, improve customer service, or create a thriving team environment, this episode is packed with valuable takeaways. Plus, we dive into common debates between marketing and operations, ways to streamline HVAC and plumbing dispatching, and how to keep your techs, CSRs, and customers happy.
Key Topics Covered:
The #1 factor that doubled their booking rate
How CSR training impacts sales and service
Why marketing & operations must work together
The importance of company culture in team success
Best practices for customer service & dispatching
And much more!
🚀 Don’t forget to subscribe, leave a review, and follow us on social media for more insights on growing your home services business!

Friday Jan 17, 2025
How Ray Seggern Helps Home Service Businesses Thrive Through Brand Strategy
Friday Jan 17, 2025
Friday Jan 17, 2025
In this episode of The TradeMarke, Eric and Sarah sit down with branding expert and author Ray Seggern to explore the fascinating intersection of storytelling, marketing, and business success in the trades industry. With over two decades of experience as a Wizard of Ads partner, Ray has worked with industry leaders to craft compelling brand narratives that resonate with audiences and drive results.
Key Highlights:
The Evolution of Brand Guys: Ray shares how his company, Brand Guys, was born from a desire to bridge authentic storytelling with impactful marketing strategies for the trades.
Why Story Matters: Discover why storytelling is at the heart of effective branding and how businesses can use their unique stories to connect with customers on a deeper level.
A Peek Inside "No Place Like Home Services": Ray discusses his book and its actionable insights, including a four-part framework for planning a marketing budget that’s tailored to the trades.
Navigating Private Equity in the Trades: Ray dives into the challenges and opportunities posed by private equity firms taking over family-run trade businesses and the importance of preserving brand integrity.
2025 Marketing Trends: Learn Ray’s perspective on the future of marketing in the trades, from leveraging automation and AI to maintaining a human touch in a digital-first world.
Additional Insights:
Ray recounts his journey from running radio stations to becoming a sought-after brand strategist for HVAC, plumbing, and electrical companies. He also delves into the collaborative process behind iconic campaigns like Goettl's “Keep You Cool When It’s Hard to Spell” and how the philosophy of “holding up a mirror” ensures authenticity in marketing.
Ray also shares his thoughts on personal growth, the power of gratitude, and the role of culture in building brands that last. Whether you’re a seasoned marketer or a trades professional looking to sharpen your strategy, this episode is packed with actionable advice and inspiring stories.

Thursday Jan 09, 2025
AI, Community, and Trust: The New Marketing Landscape
Thursday Jan 09, 2025
Thursday Jan 09, 2025
In this dynamic episode of The TradeMarke, co-hosts Eric Thomas and Sarah Ghirardo dive deep into the evolving world of marketing for the trades. Joined by guest Crystal Williams from Lemonseed Marketing, they explore groundbreaking insights, trends, and actionable strategies to help home service businesses thrive in 2025 and beyond.
Key takeaways include:
AI in Marketing: How tools like ChatGPT can revolutionize your approach to customer engagement and content creation.
Building Trust: The rising importance of local SEO, customer reviews, and community involvement.
The Power of Influencers: Why your technicians and local personalities could be your most valuable brand ambassadors.
Maximizing Lifetime Value: Understanding CLV as the cornerstone of a successful marketing strategy.
Innovative Campaigns: Seasonal promotions, smart home technologies, and hyperlocal advertising.
From navigating data privacy regulations to leveraging predictive analytics, the team uncovers practical tips to stay ahead in a competitive market. Whether you're a seasoned marketer, a trade professional, or a curious business owner, this episode offers the tools and inspiration you need to make your mark in 2025.
Listen now and learn how to turn marketing challenges into opportunities for growth. Don’t forget to share this episode with your team and leave a review to help us keep bringing actionable insights to the trades community!

Friday Jan 03, 2025
Building Profits and Processes: Insights from The Opus & Golds Group
Friday Jan 03, 2025
Friday Jan 03, 2025
In this episode of The TradeMarke Podcast, Eric Thomas and Sarah Ghirardo sit down with Dana Staszkiewicz, co-founder of the Opus & Golds Group, to explore her remarkable transition from a career in retail and ad agencies to becoming a leader in the trades industry. Dana shares her story of entering the trades through her brother's plumbing business, the challenges they overcame, and how they scaled the company to success before launching Opus & Golds Group.
Learn actionable insights about:
Creating sustainable profits in the trades.
Developing systems and processes for growth at any revenue level.
The importance of data-driven decisions in marketing and operations.
Strategies to thrive during economic and political shifts.
Whether you’re running a small trades business or managing a multimillion-dollar operation, this episode delivers valuable strategies and inspiration to level up your game. Plus, Dana gives a sneak peek into her new podcast and her take on working alongside family in business.
Stay tuned for this insightful conversation that’s packed with actionable takeaways to help you make your mark in the trades.





